Site
Home Page
Register
Forgotten Password?
RSS News
FAQ / Help
Contact Us

Welcome to Talk UK!
Talk UK is a online chat forum, as well as live chat for people living in the UK.
Discuss the latest news and entertainment, post you favourite videos from YouTube & Google, or get on your soapbox and set the world to rights.
Click on the Register button and have your say!

External Links
Campaign Against Political Correctness - Political correctnees corrodes society!
Privacy International
No2ID - UK's leading anti-ID card campaign

Go Back   UK Forum News Politics & Current Affairs > Talk UK Lite > Chit-Chat & Introductions

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-16-2009, 10:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
Casper
The Friendly Ghost!
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,042
Casper is on a distinguished road
Thumbs up Welcome Reiver!

I noticed you didn't introduce yourself so I thought I'd do a formal welcome for you here.

I have already noticed that you appear to espouse authoritarian socialist view, which is at great odds to where my views tend to stem from within the political spectrum, but nevertheless I’m sure we’ll enjoy our vigorous debates!

__________________
Casper is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2009, 10:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
Reiver
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 76
Reiver is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Casper View Post
I have already noticed that you appear to espouse authoritarian socialist view...
That isn't quite accurate. I'm a market socialist. Indeed, I follow a variety that has soundly defeated the Hayekian arguments inspired by the socialist calculation debate. Thus, nowadays an Austrian economist can be socialist. A most vibrant political economy no less!

And hello back. Agreement is never necessary. I'm only looking for conflict to fine-tune my understanding
__________________
Deceased
Reiver is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2009, 12:24 AM   #3 (permalink)
Casper
The Friendly Ghost!
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,042
Casper is on a distinguished road
Default

Wow, well after reading some more of your viewpoints, I’ve come to the conclusion that you are one hardcore Marxist.
__________________
Casper is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2009, 12:56 AM   #4 (permalink)
Reiver
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 76
Reiver is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Casper View Post
Wow, well after reading some more of your viewpoints, I’ve come to the conclusion that you are one hardcore Marxist.
Wrong again! Whilst its not possible to understand capitalism without reference to Marxism, any two bob Marxist would be able to inform you of my non-Marxist nature. My market socialist stance, for example, is consistent with the Austrian school of economics. Indeed, its imperative that one's stance is based on answering Hayek's knowledge concepts and their consequences for economic planning.
__________________
Deceased
Reiver is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2009, 01:12 AM   #5 (permalink)
Casper
The Friendly Ghost!
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,042
Casper is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reiver View Post
Wrong again! Whilst its not possible to understand capitalism without reference to Marxism, any two bob Marxist would be able to inform you of my non-Marxist nature. My market socialist stance, for example, is consistent with the Austrian school of economics. Indeed, its imperative that one's stance is based on answering Hayek's knowledge concepts and their consequences for economic planning.
How is your stance on the minimum wage consistent with the Austrian school of economics?
__________________
Casper is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2009, 01:18 AM   #6 (permalink)
Reiver
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 76
Reiver is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Casper View Post
How is your stance on the minimum wage consistent with the Austrian school of economics?
My stance on the minimum wage isn't based on socialism or Austrian theory. Its simple application of neoclassical theory. Monopsony is the norm in capitalism and its not reasonable to suggest otherwise. It isn't surprising that its hard to find developed economies that do not employ wage protection measures
__________________
Deceased
Reiver is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2009, 01:23 AM   #7 (permalink)
Casper
The Friendly Ghost!
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,042
Casper is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reiver View Post
It isn't surprising that its hard to find developed economies that do not employ wage protection measures
That’s because there are too many commies imposing their will onto others.
__________________
Casper is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2009, 01:33 AM   #8 (permalink)
Reiver
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 76
Reiver is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Casper View Post
That’s because there are too many commies imposing their will onto others.
There wouldn't be a need for a minimum wage in communism. But let's stick to our reality. We're a developed nation that, according to orthodox economics, benefits from minimum wage protection. Its actually a pro-capitalist argument (given monopsony effects lead to both wage and employment gains)
__________________
Deceased
Reiver is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2009, 01:47 AM   #9 (permalink)
Casper
The Friendly Ghost!
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,042
Casper is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reiver View Post
There wouldn't be a need for a minimum wage in communism. But let's stick to our reality. We're a developed nation that, according to orthodox economics, benefits from minimum wage protection. Its actually a pro-capitalist argument (given monopsony effects lead to both wage and employment gains)
I’d prefer to describe myself as a Libertarian rather than a Capitalist even though sometimes it may sound like they are synonymous. For example, a capitalist may argue that Heathrow Airport should be allowed to trash a village in order to make way for the Third Runway (which is what is effectively going to happen as facilitated by the nasty Labour government with the issuing of compulsory purchase orders of land). However, as a Libertarian I believe this is a violation of the property rights of the villagers under threat from Heathrow Airport and the government.
__________________
Casper is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2009, 01:54 AM   #10 (permalink)
Casper
The Friendly Ghost!
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,042
Casper is on a distinguished road
Default

Hey Reiver, I'm off to bed now. I've quickly noticed your incredibly rapid responses on this forum so I hope you don't continue hanging around waiting for a reply so soon!

__________________
Casper is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 12:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6
Copyright Talk-UK.com 2006