Ballerina BNP so what ? - Page 2

Bruv · 01-09-2007, 06:37 PM

The BNP is right wing ?
I have always considered the Establishment...whatever that is...to be right wing.
The establishment (in my opinion) tends to be Opera, Ballet, Classical Art, Top Civil Servants, Top Brass Military, Private educated, Hunting Shooting and Fishing.... types.
It maybe a generalisation of course

**Will** · 01-09-2007, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by skinny

Wether right or wrong, maybe people in the arts don't want people to know what political party they follow for fear of persecution, understandably so.

I'm all upfor investigative journalism but there is a worth and a right and wrong of a story...i don't know where the line lands on this one and really don't give a shit but the story was more good than bad for the bnp, imo.

Unless the journalist went in and stole confidential files (which I doubt), then this kind of knowledge must have been freely distrubuted in the party, therefore public knowledge. The story clearly has done good for the BNP, as it's all publicity, and it's showing the acceptable face of facism (even though it be a clearly misguided one), as opposed to the thuggish skin-heads we commonly associate with them.

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I'm not saying the story is wrong, just pretty worthless.

Why?

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Should she get the sack Will?

Now that was worthless, of course she bloody shouldn't.

skinny · 01-09-2007, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Will

Unless the journalist went in and stole confidential files (which I doubt), then this kind of knowledge must have been freely distrubuted in the party, therefore public knowledge. The story clearly has done good for the BNP, as it's all publicity, and it's showing the acceptable face of facism (even though it be a clearly misguided one), as opposed to the thuggish skin-heads we commonly associate with them.

I don't know what the Unless was for, you said what i said, just much much better.

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Why?

I forgot to put imo on the end of what you quoted.

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Now that was worthless, of course she bloody shouldn't.

Just thought i'd ask, seemed like a reasonable question.

**Will** · 01-09-2007, 09:02 PM

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I don't know what the Unless was for, you said what i said, just much much better.

I don't know the circumstances behind the reporting of her membership. But short of the journalist actually stealing private documents and naming and shaming the ballerina. The only way I can see this becomming public knowledge, is if it were already available for the public to find, even within the confines of the party.

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I forgot to put imo on the end of what you quoted.

I'm just disagreeing with you and Bruv's opinion the the story had little worth, while I thought it was quite revealing. Was just interested in why you do think it's a worthless story.

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Just thought i'd ask, seemed like a reasonable question.

Looked more like a loaded question to me, if nothing else implying that you think I am somehow anti-democratic, otherwise why would you bother asking?

skinny · 01-10-2007, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Will

I don't know the circumstances behind the reporting of her membership. But short of the journalist actually stealing private documents and naming and shaming the ballerina. The only way I can see this becomming public knowledge, is if it were already available for the public to find, even within the confines of the party.

The shame is in the personal view of the public person (name and shame) I think the reporter joined the party and gained the list, how ii don't know. There is a personal point to this also, the persecution which i have spoke about.

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I'm just disagreeing with you and Bruv's opinion the the story had little worth, while I thought it was quite revealing. Was just interested in why you do think it's a worthless story.

IMO, it doesn't influence me either way. The reporters time could be well spent elsewhere.

When i started the BNP for me thread, it was with the influence of the media in mind, and how it is pushing people towards the party. Old Ground.

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Looked more like a loaded question to me, if nothing else implying that you think I am somehow anti-democratic, otherwise why would you bother asking?

It was a founding question of the thread. You seAm to think you are above simple questions and we should second guess your integrity. The are some strange people out there, of one i think you are not, but as i said it was a simple question and not worthless at all.

A simple no would have sufficed in the first place. I trust no one.

johnyboy · 01-18-2007, 12:36 AM

Hi, just to add to this, the info of the bnp membership was found out by the gaurdian journalist in an interview with her. I doubt she anticipated the reaction.

**Will** · 01-18-2007, 05:43 PM

Welcome Johnyboy!

I think that clears up any accusations of illegal activity in that case.

skinny · 01-20-2007, 09:21 AM

Sweetpea · 01-20-2007, 11:08 AM

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Hi, just to add to this, the info of the bnp membership was found out by the gaurdian journalist in an interview with her. I doubt she anticipated the reaction.

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Why? Because she belongs to a legal political party? She was actually outed by a infiltrator from The Guardian who stole records of members. An illegal act.

I think this was more the case.

johnyboy · 01-20-2007, 03:55 PM

IM not sure I understand the point of the last post by splinter, the news papers and the tele news both stated the source of the membership disclosure was as I said- She told the journalist, plus told him why she voted BNP. Otherwise it is ny-on-impossible to obtain the members list, unless you are the very person who authorises the membership. Ive found out that their is many higher profile members than her, powerful and influencial people all now in the public domain.