Alcohol to be banned!

Casper · 09-11-2009, 12:15 AM

... well, not quite, but it’s slowly heading in that direction!

The BMA is calling for a total ban on alcohol advertising, marketing and sponsorship. This is just one element of the BMA's nine-point plan. Of particular note are:

· Minimum price levels enforced by law
· Annual, above inflation tax rises on alcohol
· Reduction in licensing hours for pubs and off-licenses
· Restriction on the number of premises that can sell alcohol
· The complete prohibition of any drinks that are deemed to "appeal to young people more than adults"
· Windfall tax on the alcohol industry, using the money to set up yet another "public health body to oversee alcohol related, health promotion and policy advice."

The Labour Government has been interested in this report. Is such a ban on alcohol advertising a step too far?

dont-start · 09-11-2009, 02:22 PM

While its deplorable to see many youngsters on the streets drunk and intoxicated, i cant but help ask myself, what on earth drives the mind of these people.
I agree that this is a very serious problem but, as with the increasing trend to abuse drugs, i feel little can be achieved until the root of the problem is truly established.
Drugs such a cannabis and cocaine have been illegal for many years yet, almost every youngster i have met,uses or has used cannabis.
To find out the need for this behaviour must be tackled, until then, i would suggest that all the deeds done to stem this behaviour will, fall on deaf ears.I would also suggest that, whatever actions are taken, it might temporarily stem the abuse but, the need for the feelings of intoxification by the young will, push them to abuse further the drugs already illegal and/or force more of them into a life of crime to establish tthe resources to defeat the measures outlined above.
The government really should tackle the question, why the need ?

**Will** · 09-12-2009, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dont-start

While its deplorable to see many youngsters on the streets drunk and intoxicated, i cant but help ask myself, what on earth drives the mind of these people.
I agree that this is a very serious problem but, as with the increasing trend to abuse drugs, i feel little can be achieved until the root of the problem is truly established.
Drugs such a cannabis and cocaine have been illegal for many years yet, almost every youngster i have met,uses or has used cannabis.
To find out the need for this behaviour must be tackled, until then, i would suggest that all the deeds done to stem this behaviour will, fall on deaf ears.I would also suggest that, whatever actions are taken, it might temporarily stem the abuse but, the need for the feelings of intoxification by the young will, push them to abuse further the drugs already illegal and/or force more of them into a life of crime to establish tthe resources to defeat the measures outlined above.
The government really should tackle the question, why the need ?

I think it's because we live in an increasingly socially inept country. Most people in the UK actually believe they need to get drunk to have a good time, be more confident, relax, etc.. The concept of going out on the weekend and not drinking is a completely foreign concept to most people.

oswald · 09-14-2009, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Casper

· Reduction in licensing hours for pubs and off-licenses

lol, 24hr drinking was going to make us more european rather than drinking against the clock!

Dermot Walrusson · 10-29-2009, 12:54 PM

The way ahead here is to bring in stiffer penalties for being drunk in public.
For instance, for people with driving licences who are found drunk and incapable in public, they should face possible disqualification from driving despite the fact they weren't driving at the time.

oswald · 10-29-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dermot Walrusson

The way ahead here is to bring in stiffer penalties for being drunk in public.
For instance, for people with driving licences who are found drunk and incapable in public, they should face possible disqualification from driving despite the fact they weren't driving at the time.

makes a great deal of sense, if they loose their job cause they can't drive they can spend more time drinking

skinny · 11-09-2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dermot Walrusson

The way ahead here is to bring in stiffer penalties for being drunk in public.
For instance, for people with driving licences who are found drunk and incapable in public, they should face possible disqualification from driving despite the fact they weren't driving at the time.

What a stupid statement, i was waiting for the lolz...Tell you what, people with kids who are found drunk and incapable should have there kids taken off them.

Sorry for makin mock Dermot but that was stupid.

bettyfjord · 11-13-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dont-start

While its deplorable to see many youngsters on the streets drunk and intoxicated, i cant but help ask myself, what on earth drives the mind of these people.
I agree that this is a very serious problem but, as with the increasing trend to abuse drugs, i feel little can be achieved until the root of the problem is truly established.
Drugs such a cannabis and cocaine have been illegal for many years yet, almost every youngster i have met,uses or has used cannabis.
To find out the need for this behaviour must be tackled, until then, i would suggest that all the deeds done to stem this behaviour will, fall on deaf ears.I would also suggest that, whatever actions are taken, it might temporarily stem the abuse but, the need for the feelings of intoxification by the young will, push them to abuse further the drugs already illegal and/or force more of them into a life of crime to establish tthe resources to defeat the measures outlined above.
The government really should tackle the question, why the need ?

"There is nothing to do." It's a oft said phrase in this country from the young, but it's true. It;s cold for most of the year, there aren't that many facilities for young kids, hardly any if honest, so they have their X-box, ps3 etc, but that doesn't quite hit it either. What are they going to do? Hang about the chippi, get called a chav or waster. It's not like we live in Barbados,,,lush coast, warm weather, too hot to be bothered, then play games on the beach. We live on a nice little barratt housing estate, new school, loads of little parks dotted around, but they did them up last year and they put in 1 baby swing. 1! Fine if you're the only baby in the estate! There are no local cinemas anymore, the one on the high street closed 2 decades ago,,,,we have to travel 15 miles for the nearest, and it cost us last visit (albeit a 3d film) £50 just for entry!
We spend a fortune on our 3 kids for different classes per week - swimming, football, gymnastics etc - must be around £40 per week for all their classes. Not everyone can afford it either.
We just need to take a simple step back in time. To when people went to the local cinema for 3d or whatever it was. To when youth clubs were on every corner of every main street in Britain. As it stands they have nothing to do.

Patman Post · 11-16-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bettyfjord

"There is nothing to do." It's a oft said phrase in this country from the young, but it's true. It;s cold for most of the year, there aren't that many facilities for young kids, hardly any if honest, so they have their X-box, ps3 etc, but that doesn't quite hit it either. What are they going to do? Hang about the chippi, get called a chav or waster. It's not like we live in Barbados,,,lush coast, warm weather, too hot to be bothered, then play games on the beach. We live on a nice little barratt housing estate, new school, loads of little parks dotted around, but they did them up last year and they put in 1 baby swing. 1! Fine if you're the only baby in the estate! There are no local cinemas anymore, the one on the high street closed 2 decades ago,,,,we have to travel 15 miles for the nearest, and it cost us last visit (albeit a 3d film) £50 just for entry!
We spend a fortune on our 3 kids for different classes per week - swimming, football, gymnastics etc - must be around £40 per week for all their classes. Not everyone can afford it either.
We just need to take a simple step back in time. To when people went to the local cinema for 3d or whatever it was. To when youth clubs were on every corner of every main street in Britain. As it stands they have nothing to do.

There are now a few new 3D films being made, but they are very expensive to see.

Frankly, I don't go along with the bollocks that the poor darlings have nothing to do. Does everyone need to be spoon fed every single thing throughout their whole life?