Will

First of all, we're going to have to get you familer with the quote tags, it's a pain in the ass having to copy and paste your posts so I can reply. Just click on the 'QUOTE' button and you'll come to a quick understanding of how it all works. Anyway............

No, old Islam is, just like old Christianity does. There are a minority of old School Christians who are as incompatible wirht modern Britain as Old School Islam is. The problem is, you are deliberately ignoring the hundreds of thousands of moderate Muslims who are perfectly integrated into our society. You only hear about the extreme Muslims on the news, and because you're deliberately ignorant of moderate Muslims, and only go on what other people have told you, you don't like them.

You said it's your right to be ignorant of other cultures in Britain, but it's very telling that your deliberate ignorance doesn't extend to hearing about the negative aspects of Islamic followers. You seem quite happy to hear about that, and then regurgitate it here.

So you're saying people are voting for parties they don't agree with, because they can't find a party that represents them? And you're saying this isn't stupid?

So you're saying that it's OK for people to vote for a racist party without thinking of the consequences, because ethnic minorities only think of "thier own"? Can you give me an example of this from your first hand experience?

Such as?

So you're saying that because of Muslims, children no longer respect adults, people commit more crimes, and more people carry weapons?

So out of "a lot" of examples, you have provided zero. Can you give even one?

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Night Terror

okay


The Laws of this country are still based on christianity, Christianity doesnt clash in the same way.


No, its the persons choice, i myself have no problems with looking into diffrent cultures im interested in, but its a choice, so this enforced multiculturalism isnt right


they are voting for what they feel will defend what they believe, its not stupid as no other alternatives suit them and they dont care about groups they feel do not care about them.


Im not saying its right at all, all im saying is its wrong to say they are all stupid.

My "first hand experiance" was/is with my own family, my father still cant speak English apart from very little and my Mum was the same, also the Chinese community, while hard working and quiet, still mainly care about just Chinese people.


well people are allowed to freely discredit things traditionally English, but have its racist for people to critisize other cultures




no, you've twisted that and you know it, i was saying how society was better, i didnt blame it all on muslims


I spelt it out for you, if they werent here, theey'd be nothing there to cause the problems that arrise.

Will

Clashing is clashing, same way or not.


Forcing things upon people isn't right, neither is persecuting an entire faith because of the actions of a few.

In other words, they don't like Muslims so they don't care what happens to them. Racists.

They're not all stupid, most of them are just racist.

So if Chinese are so incompatible, how have they managed to stay so long in the UK? How have they managed with no interaction or trade or communication with the other residents of the UK? By your reasoning, you could say the people of London aren't compatible with the people of Slough.

Example?


I haven't twisted anything, you said we've lost our Britishness as a result of Muslims living in the country. Even though you can't say what it is we've lost, and you can't even tell me what Britishness is.


What problems?

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its not perseuting, just stating what i see.



So a muslim who looks out for muslims, votes for things that will benefit muslims but not others are also "racist" and since when is religion a race?


Thats just the easier answer, just to cast them aside.


Keeping quiet and working hard, the point i was making is "communities" look out for their own, while from English people to do the same is wrong, but its no diffrent and dont start argueing about chinese people, i am of Chinese "ethnicity" and lived with the "community" so i think i know a bit more than you.

If somebody claims British culture is crap, its okay, but if an English person said it about other cultures, they are a "racist" funny thing is, my husbands family taking distain to us is supposidly "racist" while my dad initially taking distain is just "tradition", in my opinion there is no diffrance!




I did tell you, respect, manners, traditions have all been lost.



THE PROBLEMS IN THE NEWS EVERYDAY!

Will

Sorry, it's exactly what you're doing. You're saying Islam isn't compatible with British culture, yet you can't give one reason why.


Again you're going to have to start applying context to your statements, what have Muslims voted on in this country, which is purely of benefit to Muslims?

It isn't. But the fact remains that nearly all Muslims in this country are of an ethnic minority race. If it were a western religion, no one would give two tosses about it.

No the easier answer is to say they vote for a party they don't agree with because some of their policies happen to be what they want, and they are happy to ignore all the nasty bits. It's simplistic and utter rubbish. You're never going to convince me that someone who isn't racist would knowingly vote for a racist party, unless they secretly agreed, or were completely stupid.


Fine. I'd like to know though, what's it like living in a cut off chinese-only part of the UK with no contact with other cultures?

No, when I asked for an example. I meant a real one, not a hypothetical one. Show me where such an injustice has happened.


And why is that the Muslims fault?

Give me an example.

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Thats Night Terror that is Will.....fiesty little minx.



I believe there is a frustration amongst middle englanders.
The "conservative" with a small C, majority of us.
The only Party addressing the real "on the street" concerns for them is a racist party.
Any votes for the BNP are a protest vote, that do alter the policies of the main parties.....and that is the only benefit.



Congratulations Night Terror......did you tie the Knot ?

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I think Night Terror has to start a new thread in miscellaneous for us. Congratulations if you did the deed, got your head sorted then.

poppy

You will get used to it, Talks a lot but says very little.

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Yeah, nothing special though just the registrar office

Night Terror

you seem to have taken distain to me poppy, whats wrong recently, struggling to cope in life?