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    I vaguely remember it's something about people getting involved in their localities, which all sounds good. But what does that involve? I'm all for people sorting out their own problems instead of relying on the government, but is it realistic? It works on various C4 programmes, but in reality?
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    It's an attempt to reboot some proportion of the approach to housing and community formulated by Shelter and the housing associations in the '60s and '70s. Ironically, the Tories started to dismantle the system in the '80s and New Labour finished the job, out of a belief that housing agencies, councils included, should take a corporate and competitive approach.

    Looking at the damning figures, the Tories have realised it was the old inclusive approach that actually worked, creating housing and communities, where now it's become about managing existing housing stock. What they're asking for is a combination of the old and the new, a mix of touchie-feelie community spirit and corporatism. Some hope, as they're mutually incompatible.
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    I'd really love to know more about how they're going to do this. Baring in mind that under Labour rule we've had thousands of 3 story blocks of flats piled on every inch of spare land round here. I'm not sure how you can give such rabbit warrens a community spirit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will View Post
    I'd really love to know more about how they're going to do this. Baring in mind that under Labour rule we've had thousands of 3 story blocks of flats piled on every inch of spare land round here. I'm not sure how you can give such rabbit warrens a community spirit.
    Easy-peasy: you declare class war on the people who live in them, throw as many as possible out of work to pay for the bankers' bonuses, encourage the courts to abolish the right to strike, make sure schools are controlled by rich parents, keep all the media controlled by the rich and never ever allow people's actual beliefs or concerns to enter public discourse, and just watch. The rabbits will learn solidarity quicker than you can say 'Thatcher lives'.

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    "Big Society" is merely a soundbite, uttered by the continuity Blairite David Cameron. It signifies nothing!

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    Big Society is a tory ploy. Designed to empower the people (or at least fool them into thinking they are empowered), then when all turns to the proverbial [email protected], the tories can stand back and state that it was not their fault, they had given the people the power and the people messed it up.

    The leaders of the coalition are way out of their depth, look at their faces in parliament and you see the same expression as a rabbit caught in the car headlights.

    As a member of the Bullingdon Club, Osborn was held by the ankles and bounced on his head by Borris, Cameron, Rothschild and co, until he repeated the words "I am a little toad". Yet here he is with his hands on the purse strings of the country.

    Big Society? God help us!

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    But what the hell is Milliband's policy apart from saying the tories are cutting too fast.

    Its funny didn't Thatcher say there was no such thing as society. Surely she is being proved right ....? we are back to people not taking repsonsibility for anything again which is the story of the UK over the last 15 years.

    Plus did you know my local council took 8 months to send me a bill for council tax I had to chase them for a bill and then sent me a letter saying it wa'snt tehir fault-well whos f'ing fault was it then ....

    Public services are not fit for purpose and have not been for 30 years or more need radical reform.

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    I did read the government is allowing private enterprise to use dormant bank accounts to fund their enterprises. Isn't this stealing?
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    I doubt that's true, if it is its akin to local councils ceasing owned but empty property .... that's also stealing in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishouldberunningthecountr View Post
    I doubt that's true, if it is its akin to local councils ceasing owned but empty property .... that's also stealing in my book.
    That is a difficult one for me. As an example, there was a derelict home at the top of our street. One stormy night the upper balcony collapsed and was finally deemed a hazard to the community. The smackheads hanging out in it during the week clearly weren't much of a problem for the council. Anyway, the council began a search for the owner of the property but only had vague rumours the legal owner lived in South Africa but could not locate them. How much of a search, and how much public money was spent finding the owner is unknown, but alas they failed to find them. So the property was demolished. I suppose the council have equal right to claim a property after 1 year and 1 day as any squatter.
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