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    Question Lower the voting age?

    I'm quickly coming round to the idea that the voting age should be lowered to 16. Anyone agree/disagree? I'll present my case based on what you think.
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    Well if you can work and pay taxes at 16 and 17, then I don't see why you shouldn't have a say on how your taxes are spent by the Government.

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    I'm not sure it would be such a good idea, some young people may be able to reason and think for themselves but many at 16 are still children IMO. I would actually say a person should have worked for at least a year before they can have the right to vote, at least then they have an idea of what the real world is all about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie View Post
    I'm not sure it would be such a good idea, some young people may be able to reason and think for themselves but many at 16 are still children IMO. I would actually say a person should have worked for at least a year before they can have the right to vote, at least then they have an idea of what the real world is all about.
    That's my thoughts as well really. Only difference is I'm coming from the angle of 'it's their tax money, they have a right to decide how it gets spent'. If you're 16 or 17 and paying taxes off your wages, then I think you should be able to vote.

    Of course, I'd quite like to see politics taught in class if we were going to do this. That way they can make informed decisions. We could replace Religious Education in fact.
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    Whilst I agree teaching politics would be very useful in schools I wouldn't like to see the demise of Religious education. Imagine how much more education they could get just by cutting the number of holidays !

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    There is also a bit of a danger of indoctrination from biased teachers. I just don't think most 16 year olds are well enough informed and it could lead to massive swings towards minor parties like the greens who lack a great deal of policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie View Post
    Whilst I agree teaching politics would be very useful in schools I wouldn't like to see the demise of Religious education. Imagine how much more education they could get just by cutting the number of holidays !
    I'm not sure I agree to cutting holidays, it would certainly be a lot more conveniant for us adults. But really, children have precious little time to be children as it is, let's not take away any more of thier freedom. After all, they're going to spend most of the rest of their life working as well.

    I'd like to see an end to religious education, simply because I can't see the point of it. If you want children to learn about religion, take them to a church, mosque, synagogue, etc..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom309 View Post
    There is also a bit of a danger of indoctrination from biased teachers. I just don't think most 16 year olds are well enough informed and it could lead to massive swings towards minor parties like the greens who lack a great deal of policies.
    I seriously doubt most adults are well informed enough to be allowed to vote. I'm willing to bet political education would give children a much better understanding. Let me give one small example, there's a 22 year old kid I work with. A few years ago I was ranting about something stupid Labour had just done, and I asked him, "are you a socialist?"
    His reply was, "yeah, I have lots of friends". That guy has the right to vote! I'd rather have children being taught then a biased teacher, then not being taught at all.

    Don't you think a swing to one of the minor parties like the Greens might not be a bad thing? Don't you think the main parties might start taking issues like the environment a but more seriously if they did?

    Another quick question. If 16/17 year olds aren't allowed to vote, do you think it's fair that they should have to pay taxes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom309 View Post
    There is also a bit of a danger of indoctrination from biased teachers. I just don't think most 16 year olds are well enough informed and it could lead to massive swings towards minor parties like the greens who lack a great deal of policies.
    I'll never vote for the Green Party but that was just such an ignorant post. The Green Party has a massive list of policies that they would like to implement just like UKIP. They're not just single issue parties.

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    Well in my view 18 is fine, politic should not be taught in school.

    Even at university teaching of economics is biased according to how far left or right that particular professor is and most of them when I was at university seemed to be very far left.

    Schools should teach Maths, English and the Sciences that's Biology, Chemistry and Physis -I always thought this one subject science was a big mistake and dumbing down of our sadly all ready crap education system.

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