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    Yes, Bacon sandwiches are just Gods way of saying "You don't have to be vegetarians"

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    Quote Originally Posted by frigidweirdo View Post
    The reason why you shouldn't have sex with pigs or children for that matter, is based around consent.

    A child cannot consent to sex with an adult as they have limited responsibility and rights. It is considered rape if you have sex with a minor. A pig can't say yes in English, so that solves that one too.
    I believe that's how Aesop considered the pig got its curly tail.

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    It actually has nothing to do with consent if you think about it: a pig does not consent to being slaughtered and devoured. Yes, meat does provide nutrition but it is not necessary to consume as there are healthier options. If meat was not tasty, no one would eat it and would still live healthy (healthier) lives.
    I don't think it has anything to do with consent either. Consider that child-sex and pornography is the biggest growth industry in South East Asia, and doesn't that have the consent of the government; explicity or implicity? I think it's more to do with type. I don't think any animal goes outside of its own kind other than the sick human perverts that do; or the occasional dog and your leg, and that little bastard doesn't ask either.

    Consider ancient Greece, where, based on the tales of Greek myth, bestialty was considered honourable, even religiously devotional.
    Faced with certain disaster, defiance is the only answer.

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    Good point.
    There is no way you can reproduce so genetic arguments are invalid.

    It is all about consent. Children and animals can't consent - that's why its wrong.
    However, animals (or children) also don't consent to being killed and eaten. So fair point.

    Eating meat is totally unnecessary in our days of surplus food so it is simply killing for pleasure.
    Having sex with animals is not dissimilar to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny3 View Post
    Eating meat is totally unnecessary in our days of surplus food so it is simply killing for pleasure.
    Having sex with animals is not dissimilar to this.
    Humans are omnivores who are designed to eat meat and I have known vegetarians who have suffered severe health problems because of their unnatural diet. 99.99% of the meat we eat comes from farmed animals. These animals would not even exist if it wasn't for us. We nurture them, feed them, protect them from predators and disease, and then at the end of their lives they are put down humanely* and provide us with food. Seems like a good deal to me.

    * except of course in religious abattoirs where their throat is slit and they are left to bleed to death while someone recites a nonsense prayer in Arabic or Hebrew. It is funny how those on the left who were obsessed with banning foxhunting would baulk at the idea of banning Halal and Kosher meat on animal rights grounds. But then the right of religious "expression" trumps everything else according to the left, including the rights of children not to have their genitalia hacked to pieces (i.e. circumcision).
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    I'm not sure how those much maligned Muslims got dragged into this debate, but they seem to get dragged into every debate these days.

    The time arrived for killing the pig.... the blaze flinging a cheerful shine into the room; though for him the sense of cheerfulness was lessened by thoughts on the reason of that blaze - to heat water to scald the bristles from the body of an animal that as yet lived, and whose voice could be continually heard from a corner of the garden....
    "Then we must put it off..."
    "Can't be put off. There's no more victuals for the pig. He ate the last mixing o' barleymeal yesterday morning."
    "Yesterday morning? What has he lived on since?"
    "Nothing."
    "What - he has been starving?"
    "Yes. We always do it the last day or two, to save bother with the innerds. What ignorance, not to know that!"
    "That accounts for his crying so. Poor creature!"
    "Well - you must do the sticking - there's no help for it. I'll show you how. Or I'll do it myself - I think I could. Though as it is such a big pig I had rather Challow had done it. However, this basket o' knives and things have been already sent on here, and we can use 'em."
    ...
    By this time Arabella had joined her husband, and Jude, rope in hand, got into the sty, and noosed the affrighted animal, who, beginning with a squeak of surprise, rose to repeated cries of rage. Arabella opened the sty-door, and together they hoisted the victim on to the stool, legs upward, and while Jude held him Arabella bound him down, looping the cord over his legs to keep him from struggling.
    The animal's note changed its quality. It was not now rage, but the cry of despair; long-drawn, slow and hopeless.
    "Upon my soul I would sooner have gone without the pig than have had this to do!" said Jude. "A creature I have fed with my own hands."
    "Don't be such a tender-hearted fool! There's the sticking-knife - the one with the point. Now whatever you do, don't stick un too deep."
    "I'll stick him effectually, so as to make short work of it. That's the chief thing."
    "You must not!" she cried, "The meat must be well bled, and to do that he must die slow. We shall lose a shilling a score if the meat is red and bloody! Just touch the vein, that's all. I was brought up to it, and I know. Every good butcher keeps un bleeding long. He ought to be eight or ten minutes dying, at the least."

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatmywords View Post
    I'm not sure how those much maligned Muslims got dragged into this debate, but they seem to get dragged into every debate these days.
    Not unlike the much maligned capitalists!

    Quote Originally Posted by eatmywords View Post
    I'd say capitalism got in the way of a good rasher of bacon.

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    I see this 'forum' is plumbing new depths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delwboy View Post
    I see this 'forum' is plumbing new depths.
    Were quite happy to plumb old depths as well.
    Faced with certain disaster, defiance is the only answer.

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    Sex is something which occurs between two of its own species within nature so automatically by the rules of mother nature its wrong, sex is something which occurs between consenting adults, since animals cant communicate with humans clearly they are unable to consent and so it is wrong on a legal principle. Sex is an act used to reproduce (it is only humans who have sex for enjoyment) since humans cant reporudce with animals it is also pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevolutionRequired View Post
    animals cant communicate with humans clearly they are unable to consent and so it is wrong on a legal principle.
    Animals can communicate with humans. Many dogs will try to mount a human leg, indicating they want to hump it. Animals who don't want to have sex can move away from their human lover. Can you imagine trying to have sex with a horse that didn't want to? You would get a hoof in the face.

    Quote Originally Posted by RevolutionRequired View Post
    Sex is an act used to reproduce (it is only humans who have sex for enjoyment) since humans cant reporudce with animals it is also pointless.
    So all gay sex is pointless, all recreational sex is pointless. Also dolphins have recreational sex.

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