History Sub thread

[Pie'n'mash]

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still think there is one more person who will be remembered above all the previous suggestions.

It might help to look back a few centuries. What name pops into your head first when you think of the 13th century, 14th, 15th, 16th etc.
However, my suggestion is my personal opinion.

that has no reference to you actual question Pie
Your question said from the 20th century, so that is what I was answering

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My question is still the same Poppy.

From a future historians point of view, be that 500 or 5000 years into the future I think you are all right but what about the non-historian, those that do not learn history in detail but just the important dates? What do you think the average person will comment on or consider the most famous/interesting person of the 20th century?

The mention of previous centuries was to help you think about who will be remembered the most in the 20th century.

Please re-read my post.

[poppy]

beg parden, just got up bit dozy

[The Relic]

Originally Posted by Pie'n'mash

LOL, probably not the most!

I forgot Freud and Jung. My wife would slaughter me if she knew...

It was only with Presley that I was being facetious, and then only in part. We really do characterise eras by their art, as art both reflects and helps to define them.

Fine music in particular never entirely loses its potency, so I believe that the Gershwins, Cole Porter et al have the potential to be remembered in the future with a similar reverence to that we hold for Bach.

I'll add that one odd thing about the 20th century was that the arts developed in such a charging rush that by the early '90s music seemed to have plateaued, from ragtime to jazz to rock and synth rubbish, from serial music to atonality. There are few tunes left to be teased out of the limitations of scales, few sounds we have not exploited. I was discussing this with a hotshot keyboard player at work the other day. He boasted that there was no sound that could not be recreated electronically, but went on to say that many of them were above or below the human range of hearing, and most too "f**kin' 'orrible to make music out of." This leads me to wonder if the 20th century was the last to produce truly memorable, timeless music.

[poppy]

Originally Posted by The Relic

I forgot Freud and Jung. My wife would slaughter me if she knew...

It was only with Presley that I was being facetious, and then only in part. We really do characterise eras by their art, as art both reflects and helps to define them.

Fine music in particular never entirely loses its potency, so I believe that the Gershwins, Cole Porter et al have the potential to be remembered in the future with a similar reverence to that we hold for Bach.

I'll add that one odd thing about the 20th century was that the arts developed in such a charging rush that by the early '90s music seemed to have plateaued, from ragtime to jazz to rock and synth rubbish, from serial music to atonality. There are few tunes left to be teased out of the limitations of scales, few sounds we have not exploited. I was discussing this with a hotshot keyboard player at work the other day. He boasted that there was no sound that could not be recreated electronically, but went on to say that many of them were above or below the human range of hearing, and most too "f**kin' 'orrible to make music out of." This leads me to wonder if the 20th century was the last to produce truly memorable, timeless music.

Now your talking couldn't agree more I am sure David Moog had no idea what he was starting.
But then I am rather stuck in a time warp musically and tend to rearch backwards rather than forwards to find music I havent heard.
While I am typing this I am listening to Bix Beiderbecke.

[The Relic]

Ah Bix, the man whose tone Alan Plater famously described as being "like bullets shot from a bell." His reputation has been rather stifled in recent years, since it's emerged just what was at the root of his rejection by his family and his personal decline, but that sound and invention should be taken on its own merits.

[poppy]

Originally Posted by The Relic

Ah Bix, the man whose tone Alan Plater famously described as being "like bullets shot from a bell." His reputation has been rather stifled in recent years, since it's emerged just what was at the root of his rejection by his family and his personal decline, but that sound and invention should be taken on its own merits.

I don't know that, I know they didn't approve and didn't listen to he records he sent home, I know he drank bootlegged rotgut and it killed him at at 28.
But other than that I just Know I love his sound.
I would love to know more.

[The Relic]

It seems that Bix's family got a bad press unjustly. It's part of the legend that they contributed to the decline of the proverbial tortured jazzman by rejecting him and his music; what's less well known - and carefully ignored by many - is that they sent him away to protect him from the scandal of two incidents involving small girls.

[Pie'n'mash]

Originally Posted by easyg

Another great british invention no less "The WWW- Tim Berners Lee" Ok not strictly history, but up there with all the great British inventions.

I thought of a more important one.


Discovery of antibiotics!!!

[poppy]

I hadn't heard about that, I did know his mum was more supportive than his father, who had sent him away supposedly because of some connection to Chicago Immediately jumped to the conclusion that there was a link to the mob somewhere. Well whatever else he did he made amazing music.
Just shows I never know what I think I know, I guess all history is like that.

[Sweetpea]

The 45 most influential people in technology:

1. Tim Berners-Lee
2. Sergey Brin
3. Larry Page
4. Guglielmo Marconi
5. Jack Kilby
6. Gordon Moore
7. Alan Turing
8. Robert Noyce
9. William Shockley
10. Don Estridge
11. Doug Engelbert
12. Robert Metcalfe
13. Vint Cerf
14. Steve Jobs
15. Andrew Grove
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17. Pierre Omidyar
18. Shawn Fanning
19. Dennis Ritchie
20. Ted Hoff
21. Linus Torvalds
22. Shuji Nakamura
23. Dave Packard
24. Jean Hoerni
25. William Hewlett
26. John Logie Baird
27. George Boole
28. Martin Cooper
29. John Pinkerton
30. Grace Hopper
31. Bill Gates
32. Herman Hollerith
33. Thomas Watson
34. Jeff Bezos
35. Meg Whitman
36. Ada Lovelace
37. Nolan Bushnell
38. Claude Shannon
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40. John Chambers
41. Philo Farnsworth
42. Steve Wozniak
43. Larry Ellison
44. Michael Dell
45. Maurice Wilkes

Officially. We've mentioned a few between us.

I wonder if yours is there Pie?

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