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johnyboy

I dont like yobbos, why should I, how do I? I was one myself once, I did all the things that make somebody a yobbo. I shouldnt say this but I live in Chatham- where the word chav comes from. Im not lieing.

This is going to sound like crap, but I have many muslim friends and I regard most of them as admirable, inteligent, honorable, proud people, I dont believe their training to be terrorists or whatever, just pointing out the situation. If I was a muslim from Pakistan and Afghanistan (I work with and have friends from Hellmond province-heard of it?) I would be very hatefull of the west, these people are very angry. Yet the ones I know from Afghanistan control this anger very maturly. I dont know whats going on to be honest, but the situation and reality is right in front of us.

Bruv

So you dont like yobs of any ethnicity ?
But you were once a yob too.......and you might have had the misfortune to have gotten into a life and death situation like these yobs......
But for the grace of god etc ....?
Are you now a fine upstanding member of society ?

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johnyboy

No I dont like yobs at all, I can chat and have a laugh with them, they tend to get along with me quite well (for some reason) but I always keep my distance (bad company corrupts good character, bible-hebrews).

And yes I did spend a while getting some shit together chasing God, but when I cought-up he wasnt who I was looking for,shall we say. Ive been in loads of situations as a yob. And a couple near death- seriously. The number one characteristic of the best yob is reclessness. The less a yob has of this trait the less he is a yob.

Now I have a fulltime stable job and my own place, I dont do drugs, I only drink alchohol at home or in a pub/club and my network of friends dont 'hang around'. I prefer it this way. Yobbos feed on each others pointlessness and frustraition. They dont like anybody else getting on in life at all. Someone needs to show them the way out, but they wont listen.

Sweetpea

Didn't really see the light myself till 33. Then got up one day and started my education.

skinny

You have a chat and a laugh with "them" and you think you keep your distance?

No, lets not "shall we say". What are you saying?

You mean you were a graffitti artist?


You seAm very confident that your definition of a yob is correct...i personally think what your implying is wrong.

You mean you don't drink on the streets? What time scales are we talking about here?

How many of your old friends do you drink with or associate with?


I tend to agree with you to a certain extent here but your dissmisiveness of "yobs" pisses me off. You certainly aint the one to talk to them when all you have got in your head is disstain... i will guarantee you, you look down your nose at the "yobs" 'round 'r way and you will be found out.

Bruv

Just as an aside Skinny..........without wanting to sound condescending or something like that, you aint fick.

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skinny

Lol

johnyboy

Yea, ok I do tend to get heavy handed with my opinions, I admit. I still see some of my old mates about, but we move in different circles now days. They never went in pubs or clubs, prefered to sit in car parks in their cars or cruise over to other areas for rucks and fucks.

My definition of a yob is very generalised, I know typically as a rule generalising is never a good idea. But ill try to illaberate a little. The most hard core yobs I hung around with 'didnt give a fuck!' They would do anything to anyone and anything for whatever. Though I will add, some are very intelligent people, not achidemicly but you know what I mean-more than streetwise. Alot of potential. I say 'them' as it is the clear term as I am not one now. But if you heard me speak, 'propa cha'um', that never rubs off.

Maybe my definition of a 'yob' is different than yours, the next grade down is a 'chav' then just 'geeza'. I think your right that a broader understanding is required, but ive had this confirmed in the heat of the night on the streets when one of our mates showed up and told us the carnage he had been causing for hours before. This was common, we all did shit, I now see it as like another world in microcossum.

I dont have distain for my old mates, I still have a bond with them, of sorts but I see the ones I dont know as a social problem, sorry. I should fucking know, mate. But It isnt their fault as it wasnt mine. No role models thats the problem. Nobody to show us what right paths to take, and fucking oppotunist bastards louring the younger kids down the road of shit. Cos thats what really happens when your a kid kicked into the fucking street. I wouldnt be found out as a cunt, but who can blame me for not sticking around???????????

Casper

Spelling mistake, Bruv. It's 'are', not 'aint'.

I understand what johnyboy means when he tries to describe a chav. I don't know why skinny is so offended.

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