Will

So how do you know you're right?

What facts have I got wrong?

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NeonRainbow

The facts that you got wrong was that the government are not going to give fat people incentives to lose weight.

Also I do not presume to be right about anything.....

What are you saying? That in order to be correct about anything you have to seek approval from a specific newspaper? I thought you said you thought for yourself.

Will

That's not what I said though, I said that Fat people are going to get cash incentives to lose weight. Seems you can't even get your facts right about what I've said.

The Government plans to start an intitative to get people companies to do this. The initiative will of course be funded by the tax payer, and in true beaurocracy style will no doubt cost millions.

So it's the government's word against yours, please tell me what evidence you have to the contrary. Baring in mind that you've said you don't have any reliable sources, I'd be very interested to hear where you get said evidence from.

Who said you did?

What brought you to such a poor and ill-conceived conclusion? The difference between you and I, is that I'm capable of reading between the lines of any news story. It helps that I always check several sources of news before I deem it to be a reliable truth.

Where as you claim all news to be 100% lies, which I find to be a paranoid, unenlightened, and more then a little laughable. It also makes me wonder how you find out what's going on in the world.

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NeonRainbow

I never said all news is 100% lies. Check above.

You yourself did not read the between the lines of the said Daily Mail article before you deemed it to be a truth and allowed it to anger you.

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Will

Ahh yes in fact you said, "ITS ALL MEDIA PROPAGANDA......the damn lot of it."

In this case I assume you mean deliberately spreading misleading infomation. In this particular case you have gone a step further and classed it as "Rubbish", even though it happens to be true.

Because it IS the truth, ministers want to go ahead with this and it has been discussed at length. Many media sources from the Daily Mail, BBC, REUTERS, The Express, The Sun, The Guardian, etc. have all credited the story and sited it to be true.

Though somehow you appear to have some magic insite into reality that the rest of us are not privvy, and have classed the whole story as "Rubbish". In other words the whole thing is a fabrication. You don't offer any alternative viewpoint, you've just gushed meaningless bile mis-interpreted what I said, and then when called on it........

........you've run away.

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skinny

I think this man would need more than cash

800+ lb Man

Cinnamon

This is total BS anyway ;P

All fat people would love to be able to lose weight because this is the beauty ideal in our society, but if you look at the success statistics, it's not worth trying. 15 out of 10000 people who diet will manage to keep the lost weight off long term. (US official statistics, and no, it's not a typo)

What is 'fat'? An active adult burns about 2500 cals per day. One kg of human fat contains 7700 cals. So roughly, if you've lost the winter's food stash to (say) bears, 1kg of fat buys 3 days of life in winter. Someone who is obese with 30kg extra weight will just about make it alive through to spring. In other words, mankind survives because we have fatties, and hence nature will continue to supply them as they are a model that works rather well overall. Be grateful for them

The general unhappiness that this government sponsored obsession with obesity spreads, rabble rousing people into looking down on fatties as public losers nr. 1, people being insecure about their looks to the point of hating to go out in public, people who diet like possessed furies (with a mood to match, gah) ... people nagging their familiy members continuously over their food... it's all not good, nor is it healthy, this obesity business is making bullies and victims out of what used to be an easygoing, live and let live culture -- the UK is turning in a nation of opinionated annoying busybodies.

Will

It's fat people who end up being a burden on the NHS, and it's the taxpayer who has to fork out for it because these people can't act a little self control.

I agree diets are a waste of time. If you want to lose weight, you need to be exercising for at least an hour every day. I still say a Fat Tax is a great idea, if you want to gorge yourself into a fat blimp, then you can pay for the inevitable hospital treatment.

Welcome to talk UK Cinnamon.

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Just for the record BTW, I do agree that society is over-critical in general, and we live in a looks and fashion based culture, which is extremely dull.

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poppy

Best thing is ignore fashion driven idiots, I always say "see the people not the body that carries them around"

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