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Old 02-27-2008, 12:22 PM   #21 (permalink)
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It's fat people who end up being a burden on the NHS, and it's the taxpayer who has to fork out for it because these people can't act a little self control.
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According to the research, a person of normal weight costs on average £210,000 over their lifetime, a smoker just £165,000 and an obese person £187,000.
Healthy people place biggest burden on state - Telegraph

Let's make smoking and feasting a national duty, it would save our NHS.



As for self control -- is being able to withstand constant hunger pangs a heroic deed that maketh you a better person? What about drugs like Accomplia that suppress the instinct? One wonders about this free will thing here somewhat, why is it self-control when it's actually a CB1 receptor that needs blocking instead?

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I agree diets are a waste of time. If you want to lose weight, you need to be exercising for at least an hour every day.
The kind of exercise you speak of is poison for unfit heavy bodies and keeps an army of physiotherapists in good employment. The gentle exercise they can handle safely is negligible in terms of calories burnt, even if they would be at it for hours.

There are solutions for obesity, but none of them are of help to those who are already fat. Childhood is when those problems are created, and there we're definitely not doing very much -- we don't even bother with specialist doctors for kids, despite kids being medically almost a different species to adults. A GP is about as much use as a vet when it comes to kids. In fact, the vet would be safer to use because they are often better trained and equipped.

And it would mean unPC choices, such as telling women that bringing up kids is a full time job and you can do one or the other, but not both, and that they actually need to spend time with their darlings, instead of palming them off with an Xbox or parking them at the kindergarten. True a naturally fat kid will always be fat, but many of the fat kids you see are basically neglected children who are left on their own to eat unfood any time they get peckish. But this is a whole other topic, as we're talking about what to do with fat adults.

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I still say a Fat Tax is a great idea, if you want to gorge yourself into a fat blimp, then you can pay for the inevitable hospital treatment.
How would you collect it? (or, equally, the health tax that I advocate given the study above) Send the entire nation to their GP once a year? How would you police it? Blunkett's bobbies will get equipped with portable scales and get the power to stop and weigh people at random? It's unenforceable, and would create a deluge of bureaucracy with even more appeals and plenty of fraud thrown in.

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Fat tax would be added to any foods that contain a lot of fat, pretty simple. Also that article doesn't take into account the fact that healthy people will see out their whole working life, thus generating more income tax. Where as people who die prematurely, or can't work because of their debilitating obecity, won't.

There's another point as well, healthy people growing old and needing medical treatment is unavoidable. While fat people add EXTRA burden to the NHS, which IS avoidable. Which ever way you look at it, they are an extra cost we don't need. The extra tax they bring in because of thier habit is irrelivant, as it's costing us more in the illegal black markets which are growing as a result!

Bottom line is, if fat people are going to be around, they should pay tax on their habits, just like smoking and drinking.
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I suppose if you're gonna pay for it you may aswell enjoy it...skimmed from another site

HEALTH - QUESTION & ANSWER SESSION

Q: I've heard that cardiovascular exercise can prolong life; is this true?

A: Your heart is only good for so many beats, and that's it... Don't waste them on exercise. Everything wears out eventually. Speeding up your heart will not make you live longer; that's like saying you can extend the life of your car by driving it faster. Want to live longer? Take a nap.

Q: Should I cut down on meat and eat more fruits and vegetables?

A: You must grasp logistical efficiencies. What does a cow eat? Hay and corn. And what are these? Vegetables. So a steak is nothing more than an efficient mechanism of delivering vegetables to your system. Need grain? Eat chicken. Beef is also a good source of field grass (green leafy vegetable). And a pork chop can give you 100% of your recommended daily allowance of vegetable products.

Q: Should I reduce my alcohol intake?

A: No, not at all. Wine is made from fruit. Brandy is distilled wine, that means they take the water out of the fruity bit so you get even more of the goodness that way. Beer is also made out of grain. Bottoms up!

Q: How can I calculate my body / fat ratio?

A: Well, if you have a body and you have fat, your ratio is one to one. If you have two bodies, your ratio is two to one, etc.

Q: What are some of the advantages of participating in a regular exercise program?

A: Can't think of a single one, sorry. My philosophy is: No Pain...Good!

Q: Aren't fried foods bad for you?

A: YOU'RE NOT LISTENING!!! . Foods are fried these days in vegetable oil. In fact, they're permeated in it. How could getting more vegetables be bad for you?

Q: Is chocolate bad for me?

A: Are you crazy? HELLO . Cocoa beans! Another vegetable!!! It's the best feel-good food around!

Q: Is swimming good for your figure?

A: If swimming is good for your figure, explain whales to me.

Well, I hope this has cleared up any misconceptions you may have had about food and diets.

And remember:

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming : "Woo Hoo, what a ride!"
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