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Originally Posted by Will It's fat people who end up being a burden on the NHS, and it's the taxpayer who has to fork out for it because these people can't act a little self control. |
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According to the research, a person of normal weight costs on average £210,000 over their lifetime, a smoker just £165,000 and an obese person £187,000.
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Healthy people place biggest burden on state - Telegraph
Let's make smoking and feasting a national duty, it would save our NHS.
As for self control -- is being able to withstand constant hunger pangs a heroic deed that maketh you a better person? What about drugs like Accomplia that suppress the instinct? One wonders about this free will thing here somewhat, why is it self-control when it's actually a CB1 receptor that needs blocking instead?
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Originally Posted by Will I agree diets are a waste of time. If you want to lose weight, you need to be exercising for at least an hour every day. |
The kind of exercise you speak of is poison for unfit heavy bodies and keeps an army of physiotherapists in good employment. The gentle exercise they can handle safely is negligible in terms of calories burnt, even if they would be at it for hours.
There are solutions for obesity, but none of them are of help to those who are already fat. Childhood is when those problems are created, and there we're definitely not doing very much -- we don't even bother with specialist doctors for kids, despite kids being medically almost a different species to adults. A GP is about as much use as a vet when it comes to kids. In fact, the vet would be safer to use because they are often better trained and equipped.
And it would mean unPC choices, such as telling women that bringing up kids is a full time job and you can do one or the other, but not both, and that they actually need to spend time with their darlings, instead of palming them off with an Xbox or parking them at the kindergarten. True a naturally fat kid will always be fat, but many of the fat kids you see are basically neglected children who are left on their own to eat unfood any time they get peckish. But this is a whole other topic, as we're talking about what to do with fat adults.
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Originally Posted by Will I still say a Fat Tax is a great idea, if you want to gorge yourself into a fat blimp, then you can pay for the inevitable hospital treatment. |
How would you collect it? (or, equally, the health tax that I advocate given the study above) Send the entire nation to their GP once a year? How would you police it? Blunkett's bobbies will get equipped with portable scales and get the power to stop and weigh people at random?

It's unenforceable, and would create a deluge of bureaucracy with even more appeals and plenty of fraud thrown in.
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Originally Posted by Will Welcome to talk UK Cinnamon.  |
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