Will

I hear on the radio yesterday, and not-surprisingly the Daily Mail has elevated it to headline status. Fat people among other things are to be given a cash incentive to get thin!

Is anyone else getting sick of the way Labour thinks EVERY single problem can be solved by giving people money. Rather then doing the sensible thing of raising taxes on fatty products as an incentive, we'll just throw more money at them!

Even assylum seekers are cashing in, being offered a nice £5000 to leave the country. It won't be long before criminals are given cash incentives not to rob and attack people!

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Will

While I'm at it, if anyone should be getting a cash incentive it should be HEALTHY PEOPLE!!

How about tax breaks for people who look after themselves and are less or a burden on the NHS? But noooooo, let's keep our tradition of feeding money to society's excess baggage!

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NeonRainbow

I like your little quote about thinking for yourself......very true! So thats what I choose to do by ignoring the constant anti fat, anti immigrant propaganda which constantly graces the pages of publications such as the Daily Mail.

I refuse to be brainwashed by this total garbage.

Will

Hi Neon,

I ignore the alarmist edge the media always puts on things. But it doesn't change the fact that this Government's solution to everyting is money! I'm sick and tired of seeing my money squandered in such ridiculous ways.

The people I listen to the least, are the one's who counter claim what the media has to say. They usually have their own agenda just like the media, it's left to people like you and me to try our best to read between the lines.

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NeonRainbow

You're right the media does place an alarmist edge on these 'issues'.

I've just had a look at the article on the Daily Mail website regarding obese people 'possibly' going to be given money to slim down and I have underlined some keywords to be observed:

"Fat people could be paid to lose weight under Government plans to tackle obesity.

Ministers said the Health Service and employers Fat people could be paid to lose weight under Government plans to tackle obesity.

Ministers said the Health Service and employers could give vouchers to the overweight to spend on healthy food in supermarkets.

They also suggested that those who manage to lose weight could be given cash prizes.

Britain is in the grip of an obesity epidemic. A quarter of all adults and one in five children are obese. give vouchers to the overweight to spend on healthy food in supermarkets.

They also suggested that those who manage to lose weight could be given cash prizes.

Britain is in the grip of an obesity epidemic. A quarter of all adults and one in five children are obese.
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So as we can see this article actually states that ministers have said fat people 'could' be given a cash incentive to lose weight. This does not say that ARE giving cash incentives to people to lose weight.

What we have to ask ourselves is in what context was this actually suggested? I would think it was said as part of a debate. But something which is said amongst ministers as part of a debate is not necessarily actually going to happen. In fact I would think that the vast majority of ideas discussed by ministers don’t actually ever happen. It just remains a topic in a debate.

The newspapers then take this topic which an unknown minister has discussed at some point and write an article which to many people seems to say that they ARE going to give cash incentives to fat people to lose weight. Then these people tell their friends, Jeremy Vine has a radio programme about it on Radio 2 and before you know it half of Britain is enraged at what they are hearing. Then the papers just repeat this on a daily basis until everybody believes that fat people are being given shed loads of cash by the government.

Also as somebody who likes to think for myself I must add that I am quite surprised at the claim that a quarter of all adults in Britain are obese. That’s one in four. Is every fourth person you meet obese? Not just fat but actually obese?
Then there are the one in five obese children. I have a young child at school and when picking him up from school I don’t think I even see many slightly overweight children let alone one in five being obese. I personally don’t know any obese children.

Of course I’m not an idiot and I do realise that there is a problem with unhealthy eating and people do need to be educated about eating properly but I have come to the conclusion after thinking for myself that the aforementioned Daily Mail article is a complete load of rubbish.

Sweetpea

Give 'em money, straight down the kebab shop they go.

Will

I think the reason I've jumped straight to the conclusion (having not even read the 'Daily Bile' story), is that I wouldn't be at all surprised if this ended up happening. The fact that they've even considered it is enough to give me the hump.

I just want free money off the Government like everyone else.

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NeonRainbow

But why wouldn't you be surprised by it? I would.....I knew without even looking at that article that it was rubbish.

The same goes for all this giving money to asylum seekers and most of the other crap on this website. ITS ALL MEDIA PROPAGANDA......the damn lot of it.

An easy way to gauge how much of this stuff is rubbish is to write down all the ridiculous things we hear that the government are going to do and then in five years check the list to see if any of it actually happens. Most of it will never happen but nobody will notice because they will all be too busy ranting and raving about some pathetic article that is on the front page of some stupid newspaper.

Will

Erm, the home office has been giving failed assylum seekers money to go home for the last six years now. It's not something they were going to do, it's something they've done and are still doing! So I'd get your facts right before you start bawling propaganda at everything and everything.

You strike me as someone who thinks they are enlightened. So please tell me, where do you get your reliable sources of news from?

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NeonRainbow

I haven't found any reliable sources of news yet......

And you could have got your facts rights before you started this thread......