The police are still bastards.

The Relic · 08-05-2008, 07:58 AM

The police have attacked peaceful demonstrators, who are standing against the building of the Kingsnorth coal power station without carbon collection measures.

Interviewed on the BBC one of the police twohats had the nerve to say that they attacked protesters with riot shields to "protect" them. The police are also cutting off food supplies to the protesters.

Thatcher's "thick blue line" is still intact, and working for the version of the Tory party that called itself New Labour.

White_Knight · 08-05-2008, 12:25 PM

Labour are the biggest advocates of double-think we have in the world today. It's amazing how much hurt is inflicted upon us, and how many rights of ours are infringed all for "our protection".

The Relic · 08-05-2008, 02:24 PM

You're right. The speed at which rights are being eroded in the face of what is a relatively minor threat is actually rather sinister. There really is no excuse for it. In the past the country has faced anarchist bombers, blackshirts, Fifth Columnists and the IRA without such overreaction. If we change to meet the terrorists you are giving them the satifaction of making them feel important. They know they can't win the big battles, but they have the satisfaction of hurting the society they're attacking.

A.C. Grayling says we should "go on living as if the moral cretins don't exist. If we change our lives, our laws, our open societies, our habits of civilised freedom and mutual trust because there are a few terrorists in the world who will anyway manage to kill a tiny percentage of us from time to time, no matter what we do, then we will have surrendered the victory to them. What they want is for us to share their bleak and impoverished world view. We should refuse, no matter what they do."

I used to be a member of the Labour Party, back when it had some connection with, well, labour. These days it's stolen Tory clothes and dyed them an even deeper blue: it is not only representing corporate power rather than the people of this country, but also eroding values and freedoms hard won by members of the party whose name it bears. I feel betreyed on their behalf.

White_Knight · 08-05-2008, 08:28 PM

In a few more years we can start to look back and ask exactly what have these new laws done to decrease crime in Britain? I doubt we're going to see any proportional differeance, and most likely no difference at all!

Worst part is, once one of these laws is in place it's damn hard to get it revoked. Non of the main parties have the backbone to recind them.

poppy · 08-05-2008, 08:36 PM

the problem with new labour is they are further right than the tories, The evil bitch whos name I will not speak would be proud of them. There is not a single socialist among them.

The Relic · 08-08-2008, 06:41 PM

There's still the noble beast:

Dennis Skinner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

poppy · 08-08-2008, 11:08 PM

there are possibly a couple more real socialists too, but sadly not enough to make a diference anymore.

skinny · 08-09-2008, 07:50 AM

There could be trouble ahead

The Press Association: 'Day of action' at power station

This is definitely giving away the advantage of surprise

"They do, however, say they will break the law in order to achieve their ultimate aim of shutting down the power station and have planned a four-pronged strategy to achieve this.

One group of campaigners will lead a procession to the power station's main gates, while another will reach it through undergrowth.

A third group aims to make a secret air approach, while the fourth plans to stage a raft regatta, despite moves by police to ban the flotilla on health and safety grounds."

It just made me chukle a bit.

The Relic · 08-09-2008, 08:19 AM

The Henley Regatta should be banned on health and safety grounds. Those multiple chins and all that hot air are neither healthy nor safe.

The demonstrators are certainly enterprising. I feel I should be there, but I have family and concomitant work commitments these days, which come before risking arrest.

I should say that I'm actually more on Arthur Scargill's side than the "No coal" group. I think coal gasification with proper catchment methods for the harmful emissions is the way forward, given the failure of solar, wind and wave technology to be effective so far. Certainly nuclear power isn't an option. On the principle of "what can go wrong will go wrong", and the various accidents that have already occurred, it is astonishingly dangerous, especially for a tiny island like this one.