Bruv

According to reports today the BNP is gaining ground with the "Down Trodden" whites in the poorer areas of the UK......
Should we worry....or join them?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=383325&in_page_id=1770&in_ a_source=

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Will

I think it is a sign of the increasing disillusionment of people with all three of the main parties. Labour appear to be in more and more trouble every day, David Cameron looks more and more ineffectual every day, the Lib Dems have gone into political limbo land.

There's no party left that people trust, but they see the BNP making promises to ban immigration, and are prepared to ignore the BNP's real motives. They continue to gain support by default, and we should be VERY worried about it.

The fact that the BNP are a racist party is bad enough, the further fact that they have NO other serious or well thought out policies is equally worrying. It would be somewhat ironic if they ever got in power, as they claim to be the most patriotic and British party, and they would be the ones who would ultimately destroy this country from within.

A vote for the BNP, is a vote for economic and social suicide.

had_enough

A vote for the BNP should be unanimous, in order to bring the current major parties to their senses.I will vote BNP not because I agree with all their views, but as a "up yours" gesture to the labour force and conservatives.

Bruv

But had_enough what if they are returned to power?

Wouldn't it be better to just spoil your ballot paper? so no one gets your vote?

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Casper

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The nearest we came to civil war in this country in the last century was during the General Strike, in a period when people in general tended to be far less complacent and cared much more about politics, and even then the ultimate trend went towards maintaining the status quo.

The research the latest scare is based on was loaded in the sense that it asked whether people would consider voting BNP in the forthcoming elections - it didn't establish how many would. Given recent voting trends a good many of those polled won't vote at all, and many of those that do will ultimately vote for the same councillor they've had for years. Which isn't to say that there may not be a blip in favour of the BNP, a bubble of support for them of the kind enjoyed by the National Front in the early '70s, but I doubt whether it will be signicant in the long run.

So I don't think we'll be seeing Enoch Powell's rivers of blood in this decade any more than we did in the '70s, Casper. Besides, if there was a civil war, all the government would have to do is persuade the TV companies to run an extra series of Big Brother and arrange for a character to die in Eastenders and the barricades would be abandoned in minutes.

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had_enough

Its a case of choosing the lesser of two evils........but then maybe not.
We all know political parties are as bad as each other....promises and then not giving.

If we dont have a change from the current two political giants, then we will continue to see this country crumbling under the weight of dead fodder. How much more it can take is open for debate.

The Relic

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Do you mean a switch to the Libs or the BNP? If it's the supremely unlikely scenario of the latter achieving real power, the country would crumble under the sheer ignorance of a party whose only real thrust is racial hatred and which lacks experience or even understanding of government.

As one who lived through the social changes and optimism of the '60s, and who heard much talk of revolution in back rooms when socialism could even be called fashionable, I really don't think that there's much chance of radical political upheaval in this country, especially as the "dead fodder" you speak of has the advantage of a relatively strong economy to bolster it.

In fact, the one thing that is taking place that can be described as radical is the undermining of ancient freedoms in the name of "counter-terrorism" - and the majority seem content to just let the government go ahead and do it.

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Bruv

You are just an old cynic Relic aren't you.......Eastenders and Big Brother halting the revolution yeah.......
I seriously cant see anything like revolution happening here despite Casper's conviction we are teetering on the edge .....it just isn't British.
What I do fear is a slide into the rise of the likes of BNP, by default, or the complacency of the politically bored masses.
There has been a massive change in this country over the past ten years or so with an influx of Foriegners, and there is a feeling that "they" are out of control.A tidal wave that is unstoppable, add to that the resident threat from our own Muslim population that "Dont like us" and its a recipe for disallusionment of the middle of the road Joe Soap, who feeling helpless, may just not bother to vote. Add that inertia to the rise in the far right and we might find they care more than we do.

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