skinny

i've just been driving home from work and heard on talksport radio news that 1000 criminals have been released by accident bad enough yes? it gets better they all could have been deported. Now i presume they are all criminals just because they said so,they being the reporter,they also said there was two rapeists and three murderers.

I read in a post somewhere ,i think it was somebody and Sid,that it was alright to fleece this great country,but in my view this is a ####ing disgrace.
Nobody is taking the blame as per usual

Sid

[quote]I agree, it's an absolute disgrace, but the fault lies with the judicial system, not, as you imply, with immigrants.
Okay, you could say we shouldn't let immigrants into this country. If this was to happen in every country, therefore sending all migrants from here back, the population would be well over 100 million and maybe double that. Don't forget vast numbers of Americans and Australians are migrants from this country. Then the country would be in a right state.

I didn't say it was okay to fleece this country. I did say it was okay for people to come and work here.
If we were to send all the immigrants in this country 'back home' as some suggest, do you think this would help this great country?
Just some figures to ponder here. There are something like 9 million people of ethnic minority in this country, of whom about half are working age. This would mean there would be a shortage of about 3.5 million workers. This might sound like a good scenario at first, but have you any idea what effect it would have on the economy? It'd be devastating. Inflation would go berserk for starters, and that would ruin this once great country.

skinny

Ok it is the judicial systems fault for letting them go ,is it thier fault for catching them or is that a massive wrong doing.
I ,m talking illegal imigrants.
IF we have so many migrant eleswhere , when they send them back from everywhere else will this not cover the workforce."extreme i know"?
Sure they can come here and work legally .I work in the construction industry and i see it very regularly ,the work of mostly eastern block nationals.I know they are eastern block because i've heard them on James bond.Stick all your big words they're taking money off me inadvertantly.!
Another POINT IS working then sending money as a "wage" no matter how big or small is illegal......i'm sure somebody will correct me on that because i don't know....so maybe i shouldn't have mentioned it

.....by the way isn't it you who used to wear the german helmet

Sid

Before I come back to the post........Up yours Miss Temple..

Sid

It would mean that, but then there'd be too many people doing too few jobs. That'd mean people would be willing to work for less, therefore the wages go down, including yours.
When there are lots of people, all desperate for the same job would you not employ the person that was willing to do it for the least amount of money.
So, when someone's asking you to do some work for them, there's loads of gangs looking to get this work, who do you get to do the work? The ones who've put in the cheapest price. To get work you would have to promise to do the work for less money than the cheapest quote, so being paid less

How can sending money abroad be illegal?
Once you've paid your taxes on the money you've earned it's up to you what you do with that money, there's definitely nothing wrong with sending it to another country.

skinny

As for your first part....nice speech by the way....this is happening already and always has,the undercutting, but the foriegners are undercutting the original undercutters and now the original undercutters are trying to undercut the forieners.
Your second part i can't argue with but i used to work for a friend on mainland Europe..ten years ago allbeit...a English firm ,based in holland ,payed in deuthcmarks!? they're from garmany ,i rmember something smelling fishy

Bruv

I believe it might have been me that you refer to, namely that immigrants can "Fleece" this country.
Perhaps you put your own slant on my words, but to make it clear, I shall expand on what I did say.
This "Great Country" is great BECAUSE of, not despite its colonial past.
For centuries the British rampaged around the world, taking advantage of its military might to subdue and subjugate its dominions.The Empire was a business, and all the wealth it created was returned to these shores.Think of the most English thing you can.....Tea...., made from Indian tea sweetened with Caribbean sugar. Mince pies for Christmas.....candied citrus fruits with sultanas and currants....all grown in Kent???? Our crown Jewels ....mined in Cornwall?
My original statement said something along the lines that we owe something to these Ex Colonial lands, and we can afford it.....If a person sends home a few hard earned pounds, to pay for his childrens schooling, or to meet his mothers doctor's fees, so be it.
If we have "lost" some criminals , it is our own stupid fault, we should capture them and send em back as soon as possible.

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The Relic

I love Clarke's indignant cry that he went to Blair and "offered to resign". When you're part of the Blair gang offering to resign is a bit like saying "I'm here if you need anything" to someone in crisis: you don't expect for one moment that they'll take you up on it.

I notice he began his round of spin with a pre-emptive vituperative attack on the press for daring to challenge the gang's undermining of our hard won freedoms (which came in the wake of Blair himself saying that the measures are "what the public want" and anyone who says otherwise is out of touch with public opinion!). Utterly shameless, the lot of them.

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Richard Dawkins for Pope.

Will

I noticed he also said that he wanted to stay long enough to clean up the mess, this translates to me as, stay in long enough until it's all blown over. Good old Tony, if nothing else he's consistant. He reminds me of my brother when he was about three, he'd often say, "I'm right and you're wrong, and you're rubbish!".

skinny

Bruv..... there was a slant made on your words which wasn' t meant ,i apologise ,
If we pillaged the world so what they were the rules then, meaning you've got it

, i want , i'm gonna take it wether you like it or not.Wether it be right or wrong i personally don't really care because i'm happy with my lot.
The fact you would turn i blind eye to somebody robbing our country for peanuts makes me think would you watch a granny being robbed in the street for peanuts?
look mate i don't give a toss about any of these things if you've got to bend the rules to feed your family then i'm blind as a bat! these are my

mummblings please don't take offence.

i thought all tea came from TESCOS!!