FREE IRAQ! Bring our troops home!

Casper · 03-26-2006, 08:30 PM

The issue with planning for Iraqi withdrawal is complex. I have heard many persuasive arguments from all points reflecting the first 3 options in the poll.

Analysis of option 1:

Reasons for: War was illegal to begin with. Troops causing unrest.
Reasons against: Would be viewed as a failure. Problem must first be cleaned up.

Analysis of option 2:

Reasons for: Must set dated plan with mission parameters. Troops must withdraw gradually.
Reasons against: Dated plan is unrealistically hopeful and will allow insurgents to target around dates.

Analysis of option 3:

Reasons for: Flexible with time to fully ensure a stable infrastructure is set.
Reasons against: May possibly take many generations whilst troops are part of problem rather than solution.

Each point is understandable and after watching an expert debate about the issue I noticed the fundamental factor was whether Iraqis wanted occupying forces to remain in Iraq or whether Iraqis wanted occupying forces to leave. There was conflicting evidence in each case.

So that left me wondering why we don’t just let Iraqis vote on the matter and let IRAQIS decide the fate of IRAQ. Thus option 4 is my very own option that I have yet to hear anyone suggest. I think a referendum should be set up to allow Iraqis to decide what they would like occupying forces to do as a final exit strategy.

Of course I know the real reason why this has not been done. It is because it is blatantly obvious that the result would be for troops to withdraw now, which of course goes against the hidden agenda - the NEW WORLD ORDER.

Casper · 03-26-2006, 08:33 PM

Iraq is suffering - the occupation has cost more than 100,000 lives with no end in sight. Iraqis want our troops to go.

British troops are dying in Blair's war - nearly 100 so far, with hundreds more badly injured.

The US and Britain are plotting new aggression - against Iran above all. The war could spread and it could become a nuclear war.

We were lied to about the attack on Iraq - it is time Blair was held to account for his decisions, which have undermined democracy.

Blair's foreign policy is making Britain a terror target, as the atrocities of July 7 last year proved.

Freedom is under threat - civil liberties are being torn up by the government because of the so-called "war on terror".

British Muslims are under threat. We must stand together to protect communities being targeted by Islamophobic racists.

Billions are being wasted on the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan which could be used for pensions and public services in Britain.

March 18 is an international day of action against the occupation. Protests are already planned across the world, including in Iraq.

The world will be watching - let's show friend and foe alike that the British people are opposed to the Iraq occupation and the threats to world peace and our freedom.

Casper · 03-26-2006, 08:34 PM

Quote from Sid on Mar 5th, 2006, 5:47pm:

The Iraq situation should never have come about in the first place. As I see it it all came about because the Iraqis started trading in Euros for their oil instead of what had always happened before, trading in the US dollar.

On that note I don't think it would be fair to withdraw troops now and leave the poor Iraqi civilians to be caught up in a civil war that was none of their making.

The majority of Iraqis want occupying forces to get out of Iraq. It is their choice and their homeland, we have no right to remain there. Some may argue that it is not true that most Iraqis want occupying forces to withdraw, but then that is precisely why there should be a referndum on the issue: to finally conclude what iraqis want.

Casper · 03-26-2006, 08:35 PM

There was a documentary called 'Dispatches' on Channel 4 at 8pm today on 'Iraq's missing billions'. I wonder if any of you are aware that $21 billion dollars of Iraq's economy has gone missing.

Links and chains of dodgy contractors and fraudulent dealings have left genuine investigators concerned over what has happened with Iraq's money. Those high in power such as D i c k Cheney has refused to comment and other representatives have brushed any questioning aside.

This money should have been spent on Iraq's infrastructure as Bush had promised. But of course we know that it was an empty promise. Iraqis have seen no benefit from the money made from their oil, handled by the coalition forces.

Yet again this backs up the fact that the invasion of Iraq was to steal Iraq's oil supplies rather than to implement a stable infrastructure and to bring democracy to the Iraqi people.

!FREE IRAQ! Bring our troops home!

David Courtney · 03-26-2006, 09:05 PM

After a stable infrastructure is in place. Otherwise, there'd be nothing to stop it being controlled by a dictator again.

**Will** · 03-26-2006, 09:12 PM

Iraq is at a very delicate stage now, I believe it's on the brink of a civil war, as many predicted. If we left now it would become a certainty; I'm sure over time things will settle down, but Iraq is in a seriously precarious situation right now.

That's why I voted for 'after a stable infrastructure'.

atruelove · 03-26-2006, 11:19 PM

Any country which doesnt 100% cooperate, in jig time, with Inspection (NUKES) must take the consequences. Iraq didnt.
The Alliance will never permit Nukes or Nuke materials in any rogue country. Ever.
This policy will continue in the US, at least for at least 100 years--
there is absolutely no poss. of change.
Why would you take a chance on a backpack nuke in your backyard?
However, if you want to waste yr energy ...

John2006 · 03-26-2006, 11:22 PM

I worry because the West won't dominate the world forever, in fact all the signs point to CHina and INdia being the future super powers. OUr actions towards other countries now, may have a huge unforseen impact somewhere down the line.

John2006 · 03-26-2006, 11:23 PM

Don't N. Korea already have the bomb now?

Sid · 03-27-2006, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John2006

Don't N. Korea already have the bomb now?

Yeah, but you're only allowed to have it if America give it to you, like Pakistan, India, Israel, Britain, Germany....

You see, this way, if only your friends have it and you're the biggest you say what goes, and who gets the best contracts to mop up in Iraq after you've wasted the country.